The REAL differences between|
"Liberals" & "Conservatives"
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What was so EVIL about these Liberals ?
The following is from a conservative web site:
Jesus set forth ideals of liberalism so high that most people can't achieve them and many of his so-called followers have turned their backs on those ideals and have chosen instead to follow the easy, extremely conservative path pioneered by Paul of Tarsus. See LiberalsLikeChrist.Org/salvation
People like George W. Bush, on the other hand, despise "liberals". Are these not words that Karl Rove could have written for George to proclaim as his?
"The national government will maintain and defend the foundations on which the power of our nation rests. It will offer strong protection to Christianity as the very basis of our collective morality. Today Christians stand at the head of our country. We want to fill our culture again with the Christian spirit. We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in literature, in the theatre, and in the press-in short, we want to burn out the poison of immorality which has entered into our whole life and culture as a result of liberal excess during recent years."
Anyone who hates liberals is in questionable company. I challenge anyone to take the short quiz below. It challenges the reader to guess which of 14 liberal-bashing quotations are from Adolf Hitler and which from Ann Coulter. All you have to do to beat my score is to be right half the time!
The following table is taken from the conservative site quoted above, showing the kinds of people they don't want to be associated with. We liberals thank them for assembling such a great "honor roll" of liberals (although we might quibble over a few of the entries).
Famous Quotes by Liberals vs. Conservatives
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
– Søren Kierkegaard –
- William Blake
– George Orwell –
– John Kenneth Galbraith –
"There will come a time when the rich and powerful try to kick the door closed."
– Eleanor Roosevetl's –
– John Stuart Mill –
" I never meant to say that the Conservatives are generally stupid. I meant to say that stupid people are generally Conservative. I believe that is so obviously and universally admitted a principle that I hardly think any gentleman will deny it. Suppose any party, in addition to whatever share it may possess of the ability of the community, has nearly the whole of its stupidity, that party must, by the law of its constitution, be the stupidest party; and I do not see why honorable gentlemen should see that position as at all offensive to them, for it ensures their being always an extremely powerful party . . . There is so much dense, solid force in sheer stupidity, that any body of able men with that force pressing behind them may ensure victory in many a struggle, and many a victory the Conservative party has gained through that power."– John Stuart Mill ( British philosopher, economist, and liberal member of Parliament for Westminster from 1865 to 68 ).
Conservatism is distrust of the people tempered by fear."
( Dictionary : tempered="made less intense or violent"
William Gladstone ( four-time Prime Minister of Great Britain.)
– Haile Selassie I
– Hubert H. Humphrey –
second, it is violently opposed; and
third, it is accepted as self-evident".
(the German philosopher, Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)
- Robert Frost -
– Leonard Bernstein –
– Mark Twain –
– George Washington –
– Thomas Jefferson to Horatio Gates, 1798.
– Abraham Lincoln –
– Marian Wright Edelman –
Lord Acton, one of the England's greatest Catholic liberal thinkers, in a letter to fellow Catholic, Bishop Mandell Creighton, 1887
"A human being is a part of the whole, called by us the 'Universe,' a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings, as something separate from the rest – a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness.- " (the essence of "conservatism)
– Albert Einstein –
– John Rawls, political philosopher, in A Theory of Justice.
– Thomas Jefferson
– Benjamin Franklin –
– William Butler Yeats' poem,The Second Coming,
– Noah Webster
" When the nobility see that they are unable to resist (control) the people, they come together (organize) to exalt one of their number and make him a prince, so as to be able to carry out their own designs under the shadow of his authority."
(Machiavelli, The Prince, ch. IX)
– Ralph Waldo Emerson –
– President Charles De Gaulle –
"All mankind is of one author, and is one volume. When one man dies, one chapter is not torn out of the book, but translated into a better language; and every chapter must be so translated . . . As therefore the bell that rings to a sermon, calls not upon the preacher only, but upon the congregation to come. So this bell calls us all; but how much more me, who am brought so near the door by this sickness.
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. If a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as well as if a manor of thy friend's or of thine own were. Any man's death diminishes me, for I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee." – John Donne – (1572-1631)
- Dr. Seuss –
President George Washington on liberalism:
Andrew Jackson's farewell address, 4 March 1837.
Republican President Dwight D. Eisenhower (in a letter to his brother Edgar on November 8, 1954)
What do our opponents mean when they apply to us the label 'liberal?' If by 'liberal' they mean, as they want people to believe, someone who is soft in his policies abroad, who is against local government, and who is unconcerned with the taxpayer's dollar, then the record of this party and its members demonstrate that we are not that kind of "liberal."
I'm proud to say I'm a 'liberal.' " President John F. Kennedy
Republicans (I think to myself) are conservatives who think it would be best if we faced the fact that people are no damned good. They think that if we admit that we have selfish, acquisitive natures and then set out to get all we can for ourselves by working hard for it, that things will be better for everyone. They are not insensitive to the poor, but tend to think the poor are impoverished because they won't work. They think there would be fewer of them to feel sorry for if the government did not encourage the proliferation of the least fit among us with welfare programs."
that lead to violence:
Famous Conservative Quotes :
When it comes to the love of money, many liberals give Conservatives a good run for their money, so to speak, even surpassing some of them in wealth, on occasion. But notice these interesting differences between the two groups :
|Wealthy liberals||Wealthy Conservatives|
Rich liberals tend to at least feel embarrassed by their wealth and feel compelled to use considerable amounts of it for the benefit of the needy. They give to causes that benefit the
neediest of people, often very far from home, while Conservatives tend to give to "charities" that often benefit themselves and their own families and communities, (churches, libraries, colleges,
art museums), declaring that "charity begins at home".
While Conservatives resent paying taxes that benefit others, liberals willing pay relatively high taxes, so long as the money is used prudently for people who need help.
Like people who may not be planning to ever go to the North Pole in person, liberals at least benefit from knowing where "North" is, i.e. even if they don't always achieve it, they at least know that the ideal is to be just and generous toward the unequal and unfortunate.
And since liberal Christians and Jews honestly admit that they do not believe every verse of the Bible to be literally and unequivocally true, there is nothing hypocritical about them not living according to scripture about which they have doubts.
Conservatives, on the other hand, are often
unashamed of being driven by "the profit motive", which is just greed in disguise.
They work constantly to increase the advantages of the supposedly "hard working" haves, while limiting any benefits that might go to the supposedly lazy "have-nots."
After claiming to believe everything the Bible says to be literally and unequivocally true, Conservatives then quietly ignore whatever doesn't suit their selfish, materialistic, profit-seeking lifestyle. In fact, by insisting that everything in that book is equally inspired by God, they can use whatever they need in a particular situation to argue all kinds of conflicting viewpoints. They use Paul's teaching, for example, to defend beliefs that contradict Jesus. "Conservative Christians" ought to identify themselves as "Conservatives like Paul", since they don't want to be "Liberals Like Christ" .
|Famous Rich Liberals:
(Warren) "Buffett has long been the most trusted CEO in the world." . . . (and the famous investment company that he heads "Berkshire's accounting record remains spotless." (from the 4/15/05 Time magazine article on him). So much for integrity. Buffett is planning to give away most of his enormous wealth to charity, trusting Bill and Melinda Gates to spend his bequests wisely.
Bill Gates, Sr. is leading the effort of a rich liberals to preserve the Estate Tax on the wealthy. Mr. & Mrs. Bill Gates, Jr. were named "Persons of the Year" (along with Bono) in 2006 because of their work on behalf of suffering mankind.
Ted Turner pledged a $ 1,000,000,000 for United Nations programs.
Although old Joseph Kennedy got rich as a Conservative Republican, after becoming a liberal Democrat under FDR, he raised his family to give to their country, and it cost three of their four sons their lives.
|Famous Rich Conservatives:
The Bush dynasty goes back to George Herbert Walker and Prescott Bush, whose banking enterprises financed the rise of Hitler and the Third Reich.
The "Christian" Walton Family can't seem to gouge enough money out of the suppliers and employees of its WalMart companies.
Richard Mellon Scaife has funded any number of controversial ultra-Conservative causes, including "the Arkansas Project" to bring down President Clinton.
Here's how the comedian, Mort Sahl, saw the contrast:|
"Liberals feel unworthy of their possessions.
Conservatives feel they deserve everything they've stolen."
The reactionary right-wingers call me a "liberal" :I refuse to pretend that racism and sexism no longer exist, so they call me a liberal.
I don't believe that "market forces" are some magical panacea, so they call me a liberal.
I don't believe cutting the military from being able to blow up the world 10 times over down to only 8 times over is a bad thing, so they call me a liberal.
I don't believe "family" means a man ruling over a wife and kids, so they call me a liberal.
I don't believe that money magically trickles down from the rich, so they call me a liberal.
I don't believe giving a mother food stamps to feed her kids is a waste of money, while buying the air force a billion dollar bomber it doesn't want isn't, so they call me a liberal.
I don't believe cutting the taxes of the rich helps the poor, so they call me a liberal.
I don't believe Rush Limbaugh has "talent on loan from God", so they call me a liberal.
I don't believe that the profit motive creates virtue in people, so they call me a liberal.
I don't believe that "might makes right", so they call me a liberal.
I don't believe the government should control women's reproductive choices, so they call me a liberal.
I don't believe that single mothers are necessarily bad parents, so they call me a liberal.
I don't believe only northern Europeans have culture, so they call me a liberal.
I don't believe a union worker making $17/hr is overpaid while a CEO making $1 million/year is not, so they call me a liberal.
I refuse to ignore the long history of oppression, so they call me a liberal.
I don't believe teaching children about cultural diversity is wrong, so they call me a liberal.
I don't believe the only good jobs are ones where someone else is skimming off a profit, so they call me a liberal.
I don't believe Americans are inherently superior to other nationalities, so they call me a liberal.
I don't believe homosexuals are evil, so they call me a liberal.
I don't believe non-Christians are evil, so they call me a liberal.
I don't believe liberals are subhuman monsters, so they call me a liberal.
I don't believe that things are black-and-white, so they call me a liberal.
I don't believe their lies, so the reactionaries call me a liberal.
The more they talk, the more being called a liberal sounds like a compliment.
See also Why I Am A Proud Liberal
by John Cannon, publisher of Another Perspective
Conservative Treachery :Although you would expect "liberals" to be associated with rebellion and revolution, ever since Lincoln's day, it's been Conservatives who have been the "rebels".
Correlation between level of education & Presidential vote :
In 2004, the overwhelming majority of states with more citizens with college degrees went for Kerry, while those with fewer citizens with college degrees went for Bush :
Demographics of American liberals (according to
"While it is difficult to gather demographic information on ideological groups, some studies have been conducted. Liberalism remains most popular among those in academia and liberals commonly tend to be highly educated and relatively affluent. According to recent surveys, between 19% and 26% of the American electorate identify as liberal, versus moderate or conservative. A 2004 study by the Pew Research Center identified 19% of Americans as liberal. According to the study, liberals were the most educated ideological demographic and were tied with the conservative sub-group, the "Enterprisers," for the most affluent group. Of those who identified as liberal, 49% were college graduates and 41% had household incomes exceeding $75,000, compared to 27% and 28% as the national average, respectively.
Liberalism also remains the dominant political ideology in academia, with 72% of full-time faculty identifying as liberal in a 2004 study. The social sciences and humanities were most liberal, whereas business and engineering departments were the most conservative. The high educational attainment and prominence of liberal thought on American campuses can largely be attributed to a correlation between education and ideology. Generally, the more educated a person is, the more likely he or she is to hold liberal beliefs. In the 2000, 2004 and 2006 elections, the vast majority of liberals voted in favor of the Democrats, though liberals may also show support for the Greens."
Is there a correlation between happiness and political affiliation?
The "Bad Faith" of our Fathers :
"As Richard Drinnon has shown in his book Facing West: The Metaphysics of Indian-Hating and Empire Building , America's revered founding fathers were themselves activists in the anti-Indian genocide. George Washington, in 1779, instructed Major General John Sullivan to attack the Iroquois and "lay waste all the settlements around... that the country may not be merely overrun but destroyed," urging the general not to "listen to any overture of peace before the total ruin of their settlements is effected." Sullivan did as instructed, he reported back, "destroy[ing] everything that contributes to their support" and turning "the whole of that beautiful region, the character of a garden to a scene of drear and sickening desolation." The Indians, this writer said, "were hunted like wild beasts" in a "war of extermination," something Washington approved of since, as he was to say in 1783, the Indians, after all, were little different from wolves, "both being beasts of prey, tho' they differ in shape." ( p. 89)
They might well have clung close to the necks of their mothers when other names were mentioned as well – such as Adams or Monroe or Jackson. Or Jefferson, for example, who in 1807 instructed his Secretary of War that any Indians who resisted American expansion into their lands must be met with "the hatchet." "And... if ever we are constrained to lift the hatchet against any tribe," he wrote, "we will never lay it down till that tribe is exterminated, or is driven beyond the Mississippi." Continuing: "in war, they will kill some of us; we shall destroy all of them." These were not off remarks, for five years later, in 1812, Jefferson again concluded that white Americans were "obliged" to drive the "backward" Indians "with the beasts of the forests into the Stony Mountains"; and one year later still, he added that the American government had no other choice before it than "to pursue [the Indians] to extermination, or drive them to new seats beyond our reach." Indeed, Jefferson's writings on Indians are filled with the straightforward assertion that the natives are to be given a simple choice – to be "extirpate[d] from the earth" or to remove themselves out of the Americans' way. ( p. 91)
Had these same words been enunciated by a German leader in 1939, and directed at European Jews, they would be engraved in modern memory. Since they were uttered by one of America's founding fathers, however, the most widely admired of the South's slaveholding philosophers of freedom, they conveniently have become lost to most historians in their insistent celebration of Jefferson's wisdom and humanity.( from American Holocaust, p.119-121 )
"Christian Conservatives" vs. Human Progress :
We "Liberals Like Christ" have been outnumbered through much of the human history. Here are a few examples to get the ball rolling, but I invite people to send me more examples (with sources, whenever possible) :
More great material :An interesting article on
Liberal vs. Conservative Christianity in the U.S.
What Is Conservatism and
What Is Wrong with It?
by Philip E. Agre, an associate professor of information
studies at the University of California, Los Angeles.
Liberalism set to music
vs. Conservatism set to music
A great collection of international documents
regarding Human Rights ( vs. Human Wrongs) :
Describing this "cultural civil war," Weyrich once said, "It may not be with bullets, and it may not be with rockets and missiles, but it is a war, nonetheless. It is a war of ideology, it's a war of ideas, it's a war about our way of life. And it has to be fought with the same intensity, I think, and dedication as you would fight a shooting war."
One of the best comparisons that I have found on the www of the major political philosophies in the U.S.A. is http://www.republicanliberty.org/libdex/li2005_over.htm , which views them all through the libertarian lens, but does so very objectively and intelligently.
For much more detail, see What Liberals REALLY Believe, at the outstanding "Liberalism Resurgent" website , created by Steve Kangas, whom I believe was one of the many great liberal activists who have died a martyr's death at the hands of Conservative assassins.
Curious about how liberal your city is compared to others in the U.S.A.? Check out http://www.epodunk.com/top10/liberal/index.html
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